Many Americans still not prepared for a job loss

Mark Lennihan / AP

People wait to talk with potential employers at a job fair in New York last December.

The sudden loss of a job has become, if not commonplace over the last years, at least not very surprising.

And yet, many Americans remain unprepared for not having an income. A new survey from Country Financial finds that one-third of Americans would immediately fall behind on their bills if they lost a job and were left with no income.

That’s virtually the same result that Country Financial got the last time they asked the same question, in July of 2009.

The good news: About one-quarter of Americans are well-prepared for a job loss. The January survey found that 24 percent of respondents could weather five months without an income. That’s also virtually the same percentage as in July of 2009.

Country Financial conducts the survey of 3,000 people bi-monthly.

Although the economy is consistently adding more jobs than it is shedding, some workers continue to be let go. For example, Kraft Foods said this week that it would cut 1,600 jobs as it prepares to split its business in two.

If you do lose a job, the market remains tough. The median time it takes to find a new job is 21 weeks, or about five months, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

There are currently about 13 million unemployed Americans who are looking for work, and the unemployment rate is at 8.5 percent.

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How long could you pay your bills if you lost your job?

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Six months or more
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12.3%
Three to six months
595 votes
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One to three months
773 votes
35.9%
About a week - I live paycheck to paycheck
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One to three months

Only ppl close to retirement have $$ to last >3/4 months jobless, if I had that much $$ in reserve I'd just pay my bills off entirely

  • 7 votes
 - 7:42 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
Six months or more

If I lost my job I'd be okay. My expenses are lower than what I'd collect for unemployment, so I wouldn't touch my savings for a long time.

  • 3 votes
 - 8:00 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
Six months or more

I had that much in 2008 when I got laid off , self employed ment, no unemployment. and the job marked got worse. almost all saving r gone .

  • 5 votes
 - 8:02 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
Six months or more

I lost my job after 20 years, had 4 years' worth of savings. New jobs were only contract jobs and savings disappeared. So did the JOBS!

  • 7 votes
 - 8:04 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
One to three months

Have already taken a loan from my life insurance just to pay bills, and I'm still working, it's just slow at work.

  • 3 votes
 - 8:08 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
About a week - I live paycheck to paycheck

When you live pay check to pay check, how can you prepare or put money aside for when that lay off day comes.

     - 8:24 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
    One to three months

    The worst economy in the history of America.

    What jobs that are out there pay less and less.

    • 11 votes
     - 8:33 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
    Six months or more

    21 weeks with out work is a joke, try 21 months. If over 50, HR underlings are not going to hire. 24 yr old HR needs more EEOC oversight.

    • 10 votes
     - 8:47 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
    About a week - I live paycheck to paycheck

    With student loan payments... I can't get save or ahead.

    • 7 votes
     - 8:48 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
    About a week - I live paycheck to paycheck

    For the past 5 years as my wages went up my hours were cut so my weekly check remained exactly the same. Then they cut my pay more.

    • 3 votes
     - 8:49 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
    About a week - I live paycheck to paycheck

    How can u save for retirement, college 4 kids, rainy day fund etc if u only make enough to barely pay rent & eat? Get real!

    • 11 votes
     - 8:53 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
    One to three months

    We would have a little money to live on, but being married to a self employed carpenter, the paychecks aren't every two weeks as it is...

    • 3 votes
     - Lynn W
     - 8:55 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
    Six months or more

    I have no debt, own my home without a mortgage and pay off my credit card every month. I am a compulsive saver and very thrifty.

    • 8 votes
     - 8:56 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
    About a week - I live paycheck to paycheck

    Out of work for 4yrs. age has alot with being employeed. Best of luck on 26 week theroy.

    • 7 votes
     - 8:56 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
    About a week - I live paycheck to paycheck

    No money be happy

       - Yus
       - 9:11 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
      Three to six months

      I lasted 13 months on unemployment before I got my current job. I haven't yet had time to build a new safety net but working on it.

      • 2 votes
       - bass679
       - 9:33 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
      About a week - I live paycheck to paycheck

      I was unemployed for 10 months and used up all of my savings. If it were to happen again I'd be screwed. It's paycheck to paycheck now.

      • 5 votes
       - stull
       - 9:34 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
      Six months or more

      I could probably continue to pay bills indefinitely, but would have to reduce payments to the absolute minimum, as well as cutback services

      • 1 vote
       - 9:40 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
      About a week - I live paycheck to paycheck

      As much as the experts like to try to tell us to save...sthat is how they get rich. Candy Bars are no longer a nickel. Life ain't cheap!

      • 2 votes
       - 9:58 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
      Six months or more

      Smart 'rainy day' saving and living within/below our means make the prospect of job loss far less daunting.

      • 2 votes
       - 10:03 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
      About a week - I live paycheck to paycheck

      Due to high medical bills I'm still paying off and the little bit of Christmas debt I have accrued. I am living pay to pay short term.

      • 1 vote
       - 11:03 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
      One to three months

      City job so if they just kill my position I am not really fired; probably no Unemployment. I might go three months Without touching saving

         - 11:16 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
        Six months or more

        My Family:We drive one car. We rent on purpose. We invest in opportunity and skip the new shiny toys. You earn your own security.

        • 2 votes
         - 11:42 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012
        One to three months

        Most people don't have much in savings and live paycheck to paycheck. Wages are stagnant. No end in sight.

        • 2 votes
         - 11:43 am EST on Thu Jan 19, 2012

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        Rocket Science 101

        Lost job = lost income , lost income = NO MONEY ( income ) No income = No pay bills !!! Look at your own income . Plug in all your expenses ( taxes and so-forth ) . You will find it coasts you about 95% of your income just to get by , no matter where you live . Where does the last 5% go ?? Car repairs , washer / dryer repairs , doctors / dentists and so it goes . So how can you save enough to get by in this day in age ???? The system is geared to strip us of our money period . By the way I am a 99%er , and raised two kids / put them through colledge all on a shoe string, just like most of you guys.

        bob

        • 12 votes
        Reply#1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:58 AM EST

        I know people who make minimum wage and put money away for savings and I know people who make six figures and couldn't save anything if their life depended on it. It really is a matter of choices (priorities, where you live, decision to have kids etc). It sounds like you prioritized college and were successful at it - good job (that requires putting money away too). I save about 24% of my gross pay (including 401K and IRA). Some days I think I should cut back so I can buy something I want, but then I mentally slap myself and say "no, I just need to save up for that and buy less of other things".

        • 10 votes
        #1.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:50 AM EST

        Don't know where you live, or what you make "S", but rest assured that the vast majority of "working" people live week to week......Save 24% of your gross???????

        You sound like Mitt Romney who says "I don't really see the problem why people can't pay their bills>"

        • 6 votes
        #1.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:06 AM EST

        The system is geared to strip us of our money period

        Until you are ready to take responsibility for yourself, you'll always find something to blame.

        I don't know who or what this "system" is, but unless it involves someone with a gun held to your head, you are the one making yourself poor.

        I'm tired of listening to whiners who are too lazy and undisciplined to have the good life, but somehow feel entitled to it anyway.

        If you're out of job, hire yourself. You can make a fortune in intellectual property, or if you have some self-discipline and $500 you can trade currencies and at least earn a living. Or write a how-to book, or if creative, a novel. Genre fiction is within the capabilities of most creative people and can produce a decent living.

        If you have no talents, no money to invest, and are short on creativity, start a day-care in your home. Other people's children can pay your rent and put food on the table. If you have some ambition, even if you are poor you can buy a house on contract-for-deed, set up the ground floor as a day care center, and eventually become licensed. At that point you can hire helpers for minimum wage and let the kids take you to an upper-middle class lifestyle while paying off your home. Excellent choice for a working-poor woman with a baby to raise.

        This country provides NO END of opportunities for everyone from the dirt-poor to the well-off. I read that Nickled-and-Dimed book and was amazed that people could be so hopelessly stupid and lazy. Whining and crying about the low wage paid for house-cleaners. Get off your butt and get some clients for yourself, then save up your money and get bonded.

        If you have no ambition and no discipline, you'll be poor all your life. That's the way it works in the real world.

        • 7 votes
        #1.3 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:58 AM EST

        And yet, many Americans remain unprepared for not having an income. A new survey from Country Financial finds that one-third of Americans would immediately fall behind on their bills if they lost a job and were left with no income.

        That’s virtually the same result that Country Financial got the last time they asked the same question, in July of 2009.

        The good news: About one-quarter of Americans are well-prepared for a job loss. The January survey found that 24 percent of respondents could weather five months without an income. That’s also virtually the same percentage as in July of 2009.

        If you believe that survey, no more Americans make it a priority to put money into savings than they did in 2009. I have a hard time believing that. Other data has not supported this claim. It is too bad, so many take the "I deserve this NOW" attitude and use whatever means they can to make it happen rather than save and make good choices.

        • 2 votes
        #1.4 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:04 AM EST

        If you have no talents, no money to invest, and are short on creativity, start a day-care in your home.

        Good luck with that. By the time you pay for local and state-required licenses and permits, mandatory bonding, remodeling your home to bring it up to codes for daycare providers you'll have starved to death.

        And writing a book is easy. I've written several. Writing a book that other people want to buy is more problematic.

        • 7 votes
        #1.5 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:23 AM EST

        Severed,

        So move to a city where day care regulations are reasonable. Most regulations are minor for day care homes, which gets you a start and some investment capital. Most codes are actually nothing more than what you ought to have to provide a safe place for your own family and require no "remodeling." I happen to know because I just did some research on the subject recently.

        And writing a book that other people want to buy is not problematic if you have any experience or creativity. People buy good how-to books on every subject imaginable. People buy genre fiction by the truck-load. I just read a report on mediabistro about a genre author who earned over $100k in three weeks during the holidays, and I looked up his books on Amazon -- this isn't a Harry Potter series we're talking about, or a Stephen King. Many of his books are priced very low and many of his reviews are not stellar.

        Heck, romance novels are the biggest-selling genre in America, and have been for decades. That market is huge and always hungry. I don't know what books you've written that no one wants to buy, but maybe you should motivate yourself to do a little research before you write.

        People who don't want to help themselves sit around and whine, and you have just illustrated my point beautifully.

        • 2 votes
        #1.6 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:41 AM EST

        Save 24% of your gross???????

        You sound like Mitt Romney who says "I don't really see the problem why people can't pay their bills>"

        Then cut your bills or increase your income mine has only gone up in the past three years.

        • 1 vote
        #1.7 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:03 PM EST

        What a title "Many Americans Still Not Prepared For A Job Loss." Does that mean that there are going to be more out of work people? The cost of living is high and the wages are low how can one prepare for a job loss. That's such a good feeling preparing for a job loss and not retirement!

        • 1 vote
        #1.8 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:46 PM EST
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        Comment author avatarJustin McGlownvia Facebook

        Does this take into account tapping into retirement savings? I've only been out of school 3 years, I could go maybe a month with what is in my checking account, but I've got a good 30k stashed in my 401(k). I could go a year or more on that if I was careful.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:01 AM EST

        401K Is the worse loan you can get.

        • 1 vote
        #2.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:05 PM EST
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        Thankfully when I lost my job, (because I was with the company to long and made great money) I was able to pay off most all my bills. But unemployment doesn't buy many groceries or pay for any extras. At my age no one wants to hire me for anything more than a door greeter. No matter the 46 years of retail experience I have. They want young, attractive people, not old, crippled folks. It's not like it used to be, where you work hard, save all your money for that rainy day. Everyone's rates have risen, the price of food, gas, everything. In the end, you get screwed. It's all about greed. The almighty dollar and what these big companies can line their pockets with.

        • 8 votes
        Reply#4 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:15 AM EST

        What really gets my goat is the fact that I have a neighbor who has not paid his mortgage in close to 4 years. Same company as me and at one time I was late with my payment and the bank was calling 3 plus times a day until I paid the bill 4 days later. And the guy next door works under the table, hasn't paid taxes in over 25 years and hasn't held a job in years.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#5 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:33 AM EST

        Maybe u can learn a few things from the neighbor

        • 4 votes
        #5.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:55 AM EST

        the american way for entitlements at work

        • 2 votes
        #5.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:02 AM EST

        turn him in to the IRS...finder's fee!!!

          #5.3 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:37 PM EST

          turn him in to the IRS...finder's fee!!!

          Then maybe he'll come over and blow your brains out and you won't have any bills at all.

          • 1 vote
          #5.4 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:38 PM EST
          Reply

          And yet, many Americans remain unprepared for not having an income.

          We have the mentality exemplified at the Federal level that someone else should take care of you if something unforeseen occurs. Why bother to plan for contingency?

          • 3 votes
          Reply#6 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:53 AM EST

          I make a lot of money, and my education cost me a fortune...I have discussions with my fellow "well off" people all of the time, who take the attitude, "screw those people that can't pay their bills because they didn't want to stay in school and make something out of themselves"....When the subject of "single mothers" comes up, they goes ballistic>

          But the fact of the matter is that these people are here...Can someone that has this attitude please tell me what "they would do with these people"...

            Reply#7 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:14 AM EST

            Let me add something to that if I may.....If anyone would fail to give these people aid, you would see a crime way in this country that would rival the middle ages....Stop welfare and food stamp programs in the bigger cities and these people would burn them to the ground...

            Does anyone honestly think that this country gives these people "programs" because they want to??????? It's an alternative to what would happen if they didn't.

            • 1 vote
            #7.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:23 AM EST

            I agree Rom. I hear the same kind of talk. It makes people feel good to feel superior.

            I like you see it as a good business desicion. Peace is cheaper than war.

            Sad thing is there are knuckleheads that enjoy war. Class War.

            • 3 votes
            #7.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:54 AM EST

            One of the biggest problems i see Rom comes from your post. You refer to them as "these people." They are people just like the rest. Circumstances play a great part in many people's lives. Some are w/in their control. Some aren't. You see when you divest yourself from something, you don't have an emotional input or concern which leads to impassionate feelings to our common man.

            • 1 vote
            #7.3 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:02 AM EST

            @Rom1: You don't think that because a person works hard, applies him or herself, and finds gainful employment, that it is their right to the fruits of their own labor?

            I am relatively well-off, as in "getting all the bills paid," based off my own hard work and discipline. Am I not entitled to the fruits of my own labor? Why is it my responsibility to also provide for others?

            • 3 votes
            #7.4 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:33 PM EST

            Its not just single mothers.....its overall life choices.

            I have the impression that people are not being raised with proper thought process and preparedness. Its like adults are keeping the kids from finding out cold harsh facts of life until its to late for them.

            Like if you do drugs or crime and get arrested that will haunt you for the rest of your life and keep you from jobs and money. FACT.

            or if you sleep around and end up pregnant with a child and drop out of school it will hinder you for years to come in employment, money and life. FACT

            if you pierce your face and tattoo all over where people can see it, it might keep you from obtaining good jobs and money. FACT.

            We are teaching kids that expression means more than responsibility, and we dont keep score at games so we dont belittle the losers and everyone gets a trophy because we are all winners........

            Then one day life shows up and kicks them right in the behind with cold harsh truth. A lot of them seem to run right back home to mommie and live in the basement even though they are 30 because they cant deal with reality.

            Life is hard and no one gets out of it alive,,,,better to prepare the kids for that fact early on and drop the utopia complex because it only hurts them later.

            • 1 vote
            #7.5 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:00 PM EST

            Nice comment, well said. Also, as a single/divorced mother with an MBA and making well over 6 figures, I am kind of offended by this single mother comment. It is important to not label people. I believe the comment about life choices and parental teaching/training is very important. I have three children, all in college and very intelligent. They all work hard in college and hold down jobs as well. Let's not lump all single mothers in one category. As we should not all lump any person of any type or background into one category.

            • 1 vote
            #7.6 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:08 PM EST

            What about the dads of these single mothers? I'm a single mom and I actually get child support (unlike many mothers) from my ex who collects unemployment while getting paid cash for jobs he takes on the side hidden from his union job for which he sits on the bench. I on the other hand, the irresponsible one (sarcasm) is self employed and unable to collect unemployment. I haven't taken the time to figure out how I can game the system because I am too busy working. Oh, and it was never my desire to be a single mother. I didn't get knocked up before we were married but I did make the mistake of marrying someone who didn't take the commitment and responsibility as seriously as I did. Of course I didn't know that until he left. Still, I'm the one ridiculed?

            • 1 vote
            #7.7 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:46 PM EST
            Reply

            "For many, job loss means immediately missing bills."

            Can we all agree to simply file this one under "Well, duh!"?

            • 9 votes
            Reply#8 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:21 AM EST

            I am in my 4th month of unemployment. Luckily I found a part-time job within a couple weeks of being downsized from my first job, but it is only 5 to 10 hours per week...maybe 5 more if they can get me some extra. So this small source of income along with unemployment insurance has helped me still pay my bills for the past few months, but things are getting very tight and I may have to stop paying some in a couple months if I can't find additional work. The biggest expense...COBRA, over $430 a month. I am going to need to drop this coverage soon and become one of the millions of Americans without health insurance.

            I hope folks understand what the outsourcing and downsizing of American workers has done to this country.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#9 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:21 AM EST

            JP - Ohio, I was unemployed for 6 months and did not utilize Cobra, instead opting for an individual health plan (I went with Blue Cross and paid $113/mo) - better to find affordable insurance than risk being without it. Good luck!

            • 4 votes
            #9.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:19 AM EST
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            the problem in a nut shell..........wages have not kept up with inflation, just groceries alone for a family of four is outrageous!

            • 5 votes
            Reply#10 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:29 AM EST

            You know a lot of people say that same thing. Let me ask you one question when does anyone get to top pay? Top pay meaning that you not receive anymore increases for the job yo are doing. If we keep just adding 2-3% each year where and when does it stop. If we don't stop we will continue to see everything go up forever?

              #10.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:50 AM EST

              Smokie......it will continue to go up b/c companies are only interested in profits. I foresee them eventually cutting off there noses to spite themselves when no one but the rich can afford one thing other then food and shelter. If wages never rise then either should the price of goods. Lets go back 15 years to those prices and maybe some of these people could get out of the red. Heaven knows 2 cent raises don't keep up!

              • 2 votes
              #10.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:16 AM EST

              just groceries alone for a family of four is outrageous!

              300-400 a month is not that outrageous.

                #10.3 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:12 PM EST

                it will continue to go up b/c companies are only interested in profits.

                Companies are in business to earn profits for their owners. If they fail to earn a profit, they shut down.

                Try to understand our capitalist system - which, by the way, has given most Americans a pretty nice lifestyle.

                • 1 vote
                #10.4 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:31 PM EST

                Try killing the unnecessary expenses, you know, like home internet, cable, smart phones, etc., and see if you can't make a little more buffer in your budget.

                I can afford a smart phone, but I don't have one, because I don't believe it is worth paying an extra $30-40 per month for it. If you get thrifty with non-essentials, you'd be surprised how much more distance you get out of each paycheck.

                • 2 votes
                #10.5 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:36 PM EST

                Matt You are so right. My wife and I mad e the commitment 4 years age to be debt free we paid 120K to be that way paying off 96K in debt. that extra 1,400 a month goes a long way. now that we are debt free we can save a lot and plan to buy a house with cash or close to it is about 4-5 years.

                  #10.6 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:47 PM EST
                  Reply

                  It's funny, if you think about it, the estimated people that are filing for first time unemployment claims are low for a change. Yet this article forgets about all of those that have been on unemployment for over that initial stage. That's where the real unemployment figures are. If that wasn't the case why are we continuing unemployment claims for 99 weeks? Then again we see Obama and the Democrats in Congress wanting to extend unemployment claim once again. This doesn't add up and smells bad.

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#11 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:46 AM EST

                  Agreed. It is just a smoke screen.

                  • 2 votes
                  #11.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:03 AM EST
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                  Our society is one in which people need money to buy food and put a roof over their head. At the rate of inflation and the stagnation of pay increases and no jobs is literally destroying people. Saving enough money to survive for months on end (for many people) is a very difficult task these days. It is impossible for many. The fact that there are less and less jobs in our country is disheartening. We are pumping out college educated people at an insane rate, most of whom have tons of loans and they can't find work. Lets face it, working at Walmart isn't going to yield enough to pay off those loans. There are many, many issues with our economy and people are becoming accustomed to it. I do not believe things are getting better we are just getting used to living this way. It is very sad.

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#12 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:02 AM EST

                  On the subject of college....who decided for the children that EVERYONE needs a college degree??? I knew high school kids that had no business in college after graduation. Maybe later in life when they focused on what they wanted to accomplish, but to many kids are pushed into college at great expense when in fact they have no clue what they want to do yet.

                  For many other vocational training is best. The world does need bricklayers, welders, plumbers and mechanics. These are fine trades and many small business owners started this way. Why is this not pushed as hard as college???

                  We drive our kids to automatically expect to go to college where they rack up thousands in debt before they even have a career choice......

                  What a way to get them going, huh?

                  • 3 votes
                  #12.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:07 PM EST
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                  The fault lies in the U.S. policies in allowing large U.S. companies to take the jobs abroad for a fraction of what they will normally pay a U.S. worker in this country. This has resulted in larger salaries and bonuses for their CEO's. Has anyone tried recently to go to an store and find something that says "Made in the U.S.A" ?

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#13 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:05 AM EST

                  IT is true foreign competition is making things harder on US firms. Both consumers are guilty for buying foreign products and firms buying their labor services from overseas.

                    #13.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:13 PM EST

                    Has anyone tried recently to go to an store and find something that says "Made in the U.S.A" ?

                    Yes it is not that hard.

                      #13.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:14 PM EST
                      Reply

                      Alert the press. No income = no ability to pay bills. Given the government's constant need for more and more spending and more and more revenue it is small wonder Americans find it difficult to put away funds for a "rainy day".............which should now be amended to "rainy years".

                        Reply#14 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:28 AM EST

                        That 5 months to find a job is dead on. Layed off in August, I start my new job this Monday. I got lucky too, same position and same money at another company. Good luck to those who are looking, my heart goes out to you.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#15 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:56 AM EST

                        @Mark: I've got another 14 months guaranteed on my contract, and I've already started looking. While 5 months might be dead on for you, for some people it's a week, for others it's a year. I'm glad you found new employment.

                        One of the problems with unemployment, is that many are only half-heartedly looking for new employment while benefits are coming in, and get to the serious searching nearer the end. (Research supporting this has been published multiple times.) My advice to anyone between jobs is to start looking immediately, because you can't expect to find one easily.

                          #15.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:39 PM EST

                          While 5 months might be dead on for you, for some people it's a week, for others it's a year.

                          Your right for me it is a day.

                            #15.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:50 PM EST
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                            The stagnation of worker wages is having a huge impact on the economy. Peoples buying power is reduced so they can spend less. They spend more money for gas so that eats up even more. They are worrird about lossing thier jobs so are delaying purchases of homes, cars, cloths etc. American worker wages are about 33 1/3% less than in Sweden and Finland.

                            You can't have it both ways GOP. You can't have stagnant wages and high unemployment and then expect people to spend to stimulate the economy. You need to go back and look at some basic economics. It's not hard to figure out what's going on. Duh!

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#16 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:52 AM EST

                            John, A lot of the stagnation in wages is caused by technology eliminating the need for many middle class jobs. That and foreign competition are things politicians can't control.

                              #16.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:15 PM EST
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                              Very amusing comment #18 by "Reality Check" suggests Obama's should be considering all the employment pain on their next vacation, etc.

                              Such comments continue to demonstrate the amnesia of the average American as to the causes of the current economic mess.

                              The GOP White House in 2000 was handed a budget surplus and then went on a spending rampage by refusing to pay for the wars, but instead continually cutting taxes on the wealthy, eviscerating federal regulatory oversight, doubling the national debt, and putting the federal budget into HUGE deficit spending--handing the next White House the worst economy since the Great Depression.

                              AND, now many American are poised to vote the GOP back into the White House just as they are willing to vote them a majority in the Senate--having given them the House in 2010--regardless of the politics of obstruction used since 2008.

                              Is it too much to ask that under these dangerous economic times that the American voter develop a memory longer than 18 months?

                              Is that short span an artifact of human memory or it is a reflection of the media coverage of political and economic choices of national import which eliminate mention of probable causes or effects thus deliberately or perhaps accidentally producing mass amnesia?

                              How can American workers be prepared for shifting employment demands when the American economy really needs a return to a mercantilist view to combat the ruling multinational corporate interests which are actually hostile to American national economic self-interest? Put differently, how can American workers be helped by a government geared to advance the interests of large business--which is now multinational and decidely NOT American--and the interests of the wealthiest segment of the domestic population?

                              While we continue to be ruled by a political/economic elite in thrall to a global corporatist strucuture of business that now serves class and not functional interests, which can as organizations spend whatever they like to influence political decisions (spending unlimited funds on Super-PACs, on lobbying and etc.) in the fiction of "corporations are people too," we will likely continue to see increasing income disparity in the US and a strengthening of the now very visible class structure wrought by unbridled privilege and money.

                              The barbarians at the gate are now rolling back the advances made through post-WW2 American economic achievement by crying "socialism" as they promote greed as a virtue, the unregulated capitalism which Adam Smith actually warned against. Watch out for the fallout because it seems to me that it is getting more violent out there in our streets. G-d forbid a GOP sweep in 2012 with a return to the voodoo economics that ushered in the decline of regulation and fiscal prudence which George HW Bush warned against in 1980.

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                              Reply#17 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:41 PM EST

                              I suggest you also extend your memories a little, rather than being selective. Both parties are at fault, and we, as numbered citizens, are suffering the consequences of their irresponsibility.

                              If you recall, the Clinton administration pushed the initiative that "every American own his or her own home." The unsaid being, "regardless of whether or not they can afford to pay for it." At the end of the Clinton administration, the tech bubble burst, remember Yahoo! stock being $100+ per share?

                              In 2001, 9/11 occurred, in addition to revelations of widespread corruption in some of the largest companies. Remember Enron? Sure, the wars didn't help, but the housing market bubble was building up, waiting to collapse. Bush didn't try to fix the problem, he merely let it go the way it was, and when it finally collapsed, so did the banks and their toxic mortgage-based assets. The banks were bailed out, and we're where we are now.

                              Neither party has solutions. Both are content to remain in power, and maintain the status quo. Both republicans and democrats stay happy under the bipartisan system -- if the republicans lose, they just sit back and say, "We'll get 'em next time." Ditto democrats. The only real "losers" here are the American body politic.

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                              #17.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:06 PM EST

                              Neither party is innocent. To try and find things that occurred during one presidents term just to place blame on one party is nuts. Bush continued the same policies that president for years were following and most of his stuff was bipartisan.

                                #17.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:44 PM EST

                                Don, exactly. There were so many factors involved that you cannot just simplify it down to "it's Bush's fault" or "it's Obama's fault". Neither political party has the little guy's best interest in mind. They both have money coming in from all sides and that's why it's so hard for them to even make tiny budget cuts. None of them want to lose that stream of money coming. The super committee and the automatic cuts were just a way for them to avoid having anybody take the blame for this mess.

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                                #17.3 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:55 PM EST

                                I agree thats what the super committee was about. I don't think anyone really is concerned about spending cuts as long as the other political party get the blame.

                                  #17.4 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:43 PM EST
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                                  Back in 2008 when I was laid off, I had a little over 3 months saved which help a lot since it took about 3 weeks for me to start receiving unemployment. Because it took me SO long to get a full time job, it KILLED me to have to go through all that money. :( not that I'm working I'm back to square one saving. Hopefully I could reach that magic emergency savings # of 6 months. We shall see.

                                    Reply#18 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:42 PM EST

                                    Cato....Well said!

                                      Reply#19 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:51 PM EST

                                      So.....people without money cannot pay their bills. Who in the hell could have guessed this? Good thing messnbc is here to keep us on the cutting edge.

                                      Q: Hey messnbc, what does a country without money do

                                      A: Spend more

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                                      Reply#20 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:10 PM EST

                                      Should really read " Many Americans have no way to save for possible umeployment"

                                        Reply#21 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:49 PM EST
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