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    27
    Apr
    2012
    7:44am, EDT

    US taxpayers get off easy, compared to some others

    OECD

    Americans are getting a better deal on taxes than many other countries.

    By Allison Linn

     

    If you just filed your taxes this month, chances are you’re not feeling a huge amount of goodwill toward the U.S. tax system.

    Still, you may want to hold off on those plans to move overseas to avoid the tax man.

    The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development this week released a tax comparison for typical wage earners in it 34 member countries, mainly the world's wealthier, democratic countries in Europe, Asia and the Americas.

    Surprise: Most of them are paying a lot more than you.

    The OECD report looked at the total labor costs for full-time, private sector workers – that is, gross wages plus whatever taxes the employer is required to pay on that employee’s behalf. Then they calculated how much of that total went to federal, state or regional taxes.

    In the U.S., an estimated 29 percent of the average worker’s total labor costs went toward taxes last year.

    That’s far lower than Belgium, Germany, Hungary and France, where taxes accounted for about half of an average worker’s labor costs.

    There are a few countries where workers are getting more of a tax break. The countries with the lowest tax bills included Mexico, New Zealand and Chile, where just 7 percent of the average worker’s total costs went to taxes.

    The OECD found that taxes increased in 26 of the 34 OECD countries last year. The U.S. was one of the few countries to see a decrease because of cuts in Social Security contributions. That offset the end of the Making Work Pay tax credit.

    For comparison purposes, the calculations assumed the average worker was single and without children. The OECD did separate calculations for other individuals and families with children in its full report.

    Matthias Rumpf, a spokesman for the OECD, said the U.S. ranks lower than average in part because it does not have compulsory health care. That means Americans’ health care costs aren’t included in their total taxes.

    The OECD also didn’t include mortgage interest rate deductions in its calculation, in part because it’s difficult to make assumptions about how much a person would pay and thus deduct.

    Do you think Americans should be paying more or less in taxes? Discuss it in the comments below or on our Facebook page.

    Do you think Uncle Sam is fair when it comes to income taxes?

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    Results with 152 short comments
    Total of 12,493 votes - click on the "Display Comments" bar below to sort comments

    20%
    Yes, we are paying about the right amount
    2,496 votes
    53.7%
    No, we are paying too much
    6,711 votes
    26.3%
    No, we are paying too little
    3,286 votes
    Display Comments:
    No, we are paying too much

    And yet just under 50% pay no federal income tax... Everyone should have to pay something.

    • 28 votes
    #1
     - 314159
     - 11:30 am EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    so much for small government. If I wanted to be in one of these other countries, I'd move there.

    • 7 votes
    #2
     - kamity
     - 11:31 am EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    THey also have more Govt benefits. all the argument about universal healthcare. they are paying for it.

    • 16 votes
    #3
     - bobrsd
     - 11:33 am EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    We should be closer to the bottom of this list so there is room for improvement

    • 4 votes
    #4
     - al-1285187
     - 11:38 am EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    For a country that has no socialized medical program and no free education we pay too
    much.

    • 8 votes
    #5
     - george -5826530
     - 11:38 am EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    Figure in all the other Federal taxes we pay and then compare them. Figure state county etc.etc. etc.etc, and then see how easy we get off

    • 19 votes
    #6
     - bobyoung-1427396
     - 11:54 am EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    Yes we're paying less than the underperforming overburdened government heavy countries of the world yipee. Yes, too much and 50% pay zero.

    • 15 votes
    #7
     - fensterlips
     - 11:55 am EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    Yes, we are paying about the right amount

    We are paying the right amount but the government WASTES too much. If not for all the PORK and general waste, misuse and theft, we would ru

    • 14 votes
    #8
     - Jim Cromeenes
     - 12:07 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    Some of us are paying too much, there is a group that is not!!!!

    • 11 votes
    #9
     - Version
     - 12:07 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    The data must be incorrect. When an individual wins a lottery the amount taken from the winning is about 50%. Is it the definition of TAX?

    • 3 votes
    #10
     - marine190
     - 12:09 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    Taking somebody's wealth without his consent is a violation of his rights - it's theft. A civilized government doesn't violate rights.

    • 8 votes
    #11
     - IdeasMatter
     - 12:10 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    Our wealthiest 1% are not paying enough and that is why US taxes and tax rates are not fair. Lose the Bush Tax Cuts and get rid of the deb

    • 7 votes
    #12
     - John Sean Luke
     - 12:17 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    It's not Uncle Sam. It's property, sales and state taxes. Also I'd gladly pay more for healthcare and good schools. I have no young kids.

    • 7 votes
    #13
     - Struggling American
     - 12:18 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    Yes, we are paying about the right amount

    Those of us that are paying taxes are paying a fair amount

    • 1 vote
    #14
     - LostInThePineBarrens
     - 12:18 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    Too high, is this counting, gas tax, property/school taxes, misc taxes on cell phone, cable, utilities. etc.

    • 7 votes
    #15
     - cindy t-947086
     - 12:21 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too little

    High taxes = social welfare and universal healthcare = happier and healthier citizens. It would be worth the cost to have that.

    • 23 votes
    #16
     - VACatwoman
     - 12:22 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too little

    America needs capital to continue to lead the world, if that means digging deeper in your pockets so be it. I love America do you?

    • 7 votes
    #17
     - weighed-in
     - 12:22 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    Considering we get no bang for our buck - we pay waaayyy too much.

    • 8 votes
    #18
     - heyvic
     - 12:23 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    This is 1 tax. Add the rest of the taxes up and see what %age we're really paying. Come on media give us the real story..

    • 11 votes
    #19
     - GuyLittle
     - 12:27 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too little

    Come on you bleeding hearts. How do you expect to have, h2o service ,safe roads to drive on without taxes? Lower taxes have detroyed Americ

    • 9 votes
    #20
     - 420 Frees the Mind
     - 12:29 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    you're missing alot of taxes in your chart.
    Income tax is but a small part of my taxes.

    • 12 votes
    #21
     - dogmeat-@!$%#s !
     - 12:29 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    Yes, we are paying about the right amount

    I think we could pay less if we stopped wasting it but I'm okay with what we pay now. Still, stop wasting it!

    • 3 votes
    #22
     - ddwinters45
     - 12:30 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    No, we are paying too much

    Other countries provide health, month long vacations, X-mas break, etc. More bang for the tax buck!

    • 3 votes
    #23
     - Jim-883724
     - 12:32 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
    Yes, we are paying about the right amount

    The problem is the U.S. gives to much money to other countries.

    • 6 votes
    #24
     - fairplay7
     - 12:33 pm EDT on Fri Apr 27, 2012
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    The United States is still one of the least heavily taxed countries in world even when you add in the Corporate Tax Structure. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates www.gfmag.com/tools/global-database/economic-data/10443-corporate-tax-by-country.html#axzz1tF3uppvX Now, if we actually  …

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  • 13
    Apr
    2012
    7:49am, EDT

    States with the biggest wage gap between men, women

    National Women's Law Center

    By Allison Linn

    The difference between a man's paycheck and a woman's paycheck may have something to do with where people live.

    A new analysis from the National Women’s Law Center finds that the pay gap between men and women varies widely among the  states.

    Looking at full-time, year-round wages, the gap is smallest in Washington, D.C., where women earn 91 cents for every dollar men earn, and widest in Wyoming, where women earning just 64 cents for every dollar men earn.

    Vermont and California also boasted small wage gaps between men and women, while Louisiana and Utah were among those with the largest wage gaps.

    Demographic and economic factors help explain some of the disparity.

    Many people who live in Washington work for the federal government, where wage gaps tend to be smaller than in private industry, said Fatima Goss Graves, vice president of education and employment for the National Women’s Law Center.

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    People who live in the nation's capital also may be younger, she added, and the wage gap is smaller among younger workers.

    By contrast, in Wyoming there may be more jobs in traditionally male-dominated industries such as coal mining. The state is also largely rural and much more sparsely populated.

    But Graves argues that such factors don’t account for the entire gap.

    “There’s always a portion that cannot be explained away,” she said.

    Economist Mike Montgomery with IHS Global Insight said demographic differences in various states could have a lot to do with the  wage gap. States with a homogeneous labor market – where men and women do similar jobs – could have a much narrower gap because opportunities are more equal.

    The overall gap between men’s and women’s median earnings has improved as more women have entered the labor market, but a disparity remains.

    That’s partly because men and women choose different career paths, but pay gaps persist even for people in the same jobs.

    The median weekly income for female physicians and surgeons is just 71 percent of what men take home, for example. Even in traditionally female-dominated professions, such as nursing and teaching, women generally take home less than men each week, according to the most recent data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    The National Women’s Law Center used the most recent 2010 data from the American Community Survey, which is conducted by the Census Bureau, to compile its analysis. Its findings are close to what the Census Bureau itself found when it did a similar analysis a couple of years ago.

    Do you think men and women are paid equally in your profession?

    Results with 42 short comments
    Total of 5,443 votes - click on the "Display Comments" bar below to sort comments

    22.6%
    Yes, I think both sexes are treated fairly
    1,231 votes
    68.6%
    No, I think there's some gender bias
    3,736 votes
    8.7%
    No, but I think that's because men and women choose different career paths
    476 votes
    Display Comments:
    No, I think there's some gender bias

    Women in my industry chose flexibility over higher pay. Or rather they are more inclined to believe pay should be exchanged for flexibility

    • 9 votes
    #25
     - yvonnemari
     - 8:18 am EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
    No, I think there's some gender bias

    I work in IT which can be a very large "old boys club" Women often have to fight for their raises and promotions.

    • 9 votes
    #26
     - mj-1451595
     - 9:01 am EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
    Yes, I think both sexes are treated fairly

    In my work, yes, we have a union that protects both men & women equally. Say whatever, but unions protect workers' pay regardless of gende

    • 18 votes
    #27
     - zapper45701
     - 9:35 am EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
    Yes, I think both sexes are treated fairly

    Engineers are paid for their innovations that companies need to survive.

    • 4 votes
    #28
     - Xant
     - 9:47 am EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
    No, I think there's some gender bias

    Men are frequently put on the 'fast track' to management jobs; women not so much, even when equally qualified.

    • 22 votes
    #29
     - rainlady2
     - 10:02 am EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
    No, I think there's some gender bias

    Maybe but don't want to form an opinion based on outdated census information.

    • 3 votes
    #30
     - LouK2k12
     - 10:12 am EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
    No, I think there's some gender bias

    at my job i think its probably fair. at the senior mgmt lvl and above its still not fair, but i notice at my job the gap is closing

    • 3 votes
    #31
     - brian-397693
     - 10:18 am EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
    No, I think there's some gender bias

    Notice how the14 worst states are republican controlled, and they speak of womens rights...the hypocrites.

    • 30 votes
    #32
     - Sparky-2737266
     - 10:45 am EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
    Yes, I think both sexes are treated fairly

    In my profession, yes. In others, not as much.

      #33
       - Smitty in Irvine
       - 11:02 am EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
      Yes, I think both sexes are treated fairly

      I'm a Realtor, so I am paid commission based on what I sell and it has nothing to do with gender.

      • 2 votes
      #34
       - Mondays Child
       - 11:19 am EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
      No, I think there's some gender bias

      I'm a woman. I do the payroll for my company and I SEE the wage gap firsthand.

      • 25 votes
      #35
       - hdw1515
       - 11:26 am EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
      Yes, I think both sexes are treated fairly

      The few that ARE in technology are compensated equally to men. They just tend to gravitate towards other professions.

      • 3 votes
      #36
       - KowRipper
       - 11:35 am EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
      No, I think there's some gender bias

      I know female engineers & techs are paid less than males. Got fired from job when I found out and wrote about it in local newspaper.

      • 17 votes
      #37
       - De2Or2010
       - 11:50 am EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
      No, I think there's some gender bias

      Scott Walker has quietly repealed Wisonsin's Equal Pay Law. Women need to take notice! This could happen in your state!

      • 21 votes
      #38
       - Lovely-2035151
       - 12:06 pm EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
      Yes, I think both sexes are treated fairly

      In general there is fairness but there are some cultural differences where women do not ask for what they are worth.

      • 2 votes
      #39
       - PJ-2874743
       - 12:24 pm EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
      No, I think there's some gender bias

      women tend to fight less for what they want, and therefore end up with less. I work with all women, and I fight for pay increases and get i

      • 5 votes
      #40
       - Jessica-1170252
       - 1:05 pm EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
      Yes, I think both sexes are treated fairly

      With engineering it's all about your track record. Once you get in the door (harder to do if you're female) you get the $ if you deliver.

      • 2 votes
      #41
       - RAWilliams1974
       - 1:44 pm EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
      Yes, I think both sexes are treated fairly

      It's tempting to blame the Dems in NY & CA, but it's really the unions - though that may not be a significant difference.

        #42
         - HNL
         - 2:04 pm EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
        No, I think there's some gender bias

        In IT, men are paid more regardless of their qualifications or abilities.

        • 10 votes
        #43
         - Evelyn-518247
         - 2:18 pm EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
        No, I think there's some gender bias

        Bosses never want you to share your salary info! See unfair differences in tech industry.

        • 4 votes
        #44
         - dmze
         - 3:21 pm EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
        No, I think there's some gender bias

        When everyone finally realize that equal pay for all will benefit all - especially families?!?!

        • 8 votes
        #45
         - msmichey
         - 3:31 pm EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
        No, I think there's some gender bias

        War on Women has a basis in fact - biggest gap seen in CONSERVATIVE states!!!

        • 11 votes
        #46
         - RushISaPIG
         - 5:59 pm EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
        Yes, I think both sexes are treated fairly

        how can surgeons be unequal when they're paid based on productivity and insurance/medicare rates?

        • 2 votes
        #47
         - Classwarfare
         - 6:48 pm EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
        Yes, I think both sexes are treated fairly

        The provided answers don't match the question. Being paid equally is not the same as being treated fairly. Men and women behave differently

        • 2 votes
        #48
         - jonutah
         - 7:14 pm EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
        No, I think there's some gender bias

        I live in WY and KNOW that women are paid much less than men who are junior to them, and minority women are paid even less.

        • 5 votes
        #49
         - EEK the EEK
         - 8:34 pm EDT on Fri Apr 13, 2012
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        57 comments

        Pjam09, I know tons of women who support stay at home Dads. I suppose you think it okay for them to be paid less just because they are women?! I for one raised my family on a Union job salary and couldn't have done it on traditional pay for women. Try to leave the 1950's and join us in 2012

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      • 6
        Apr
        2012
        7:05am, EDT

        Government job losses dragging down growth

        Economic Policy Institute

        By Allison Linn

        The economy has been adding jobs lately, but not government jobs.

        More than half a million, local, state and federal jobs have been cut since the recession ended in June 2009, according to an analysis released this week by the Economic Policy Institute.

        That's the opposite of what happened following the previous three recessions and could be part of the reason why this recovery has been so weak, particularly when it comes to jobs. The government reported Friday that the unemployment rate fell slightly, to 8.2 percent in March, as the economy added 120,000 jobs, much fewer than had been expected.

        Despite the government job cuts, more than 20 million people work in the public sector, making it a key part of the overall jobs picture.

        In previous recessions, the public sector saw a percentage gain in jobs once the economy began to grow again, according to EPI’s analysis of government data. This time, there’s been a percentage loss.

        Josh Bivens, the economist with EPI who compiled the data, said the biggest job losses this time have come from state and local governments. Those employers have had to deal with a drop in tax revenue, in part because of the housing bust, along with an increase in the need for social services and support programs such as unemployment insurance and Medicaid.

        “States have two options when they’re faced with a looming budget gap: Raise taxes or cut spending, which means cutting jobs,” Bivens said. “It does seem like they’ve gone the spending cut route, judging from these numbers.”

        The federal government also has cut jobs in certain sectors, such as the Postal Service, and faces the looming prospect of more cuts in areas such as defense. Overall, however, federal government employment is about the same as in mid-2009. The analysis excluded Census workers, who were hired temporarily by the government from late 2008 to late 2010.

        There could be good news on the horizon for people want to get – or keep – a government job. In recent months, the pace of public-sector job losses has started to slow, and there has even been some net hiring in areas such as state and local education.

        In the March unemployment report released Friday, there was a net gain in state government education jobs, but local education jobs recorded another drop from the previous month.

        “The hope is that eventually this swings from negative to positive,” Bivens said. “I don’t expect it to continue to drag.”

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        317 comments

        That is one thing the republican radicals can affect. I bet they sit in amazement at how well the country is doing despite all their efforts. To think I once was enamored by their constant lies. I doubt they got this radical overnight. Is there nothing these radicals won't try?

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      • 23
        Mar
        2012
        7:47am, EDT

        Who's using government benefits: Mostly, the elderly

        Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

        By Allison Linn

        The recession and drawn out recovery has prompted a lot of discussion about whether entitlement programs ranging from unemployment insurance to food stamps help people in need or keep people from helping themselves.

        A recent analysis from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, which advocates for low-income families, offers some insight into that issue by showing who exactly is using these government benefits.

        The answer: Mostly the 65-plus crowd, but also disabled people and working Americans.

        Using the 2010 federal budget and U.S. Census data , the CBPP finds that 53 percent of all government entitlements are going to people who are over 65 years old.

        Another 20 percent of the benefits went to disabled people, while 18 percent were going to people in a working household. The data was for the government’s 2010 fiscal year.

        That means that 9 percent of entitlements went to people who were not elderly, disabled or living in a household in which someone had worked at least 1,000 hours in a year.

        The analysis included Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment insurance, SNAP (otherwise known as food stamps), Social Security Insurance, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, the school lunch program, the Children’s Health Insurance Program, the Earned Income Tax Credit, and the refundable component of the Child Tax Credit.

        Taken together, that accounts for $1.8 trillion of the approximately $2.1 trillion in benefit costs the government paid out in the 2010 fiscal year, according to the researchers. The report said most of the remaining money went to federal and veteran retirement benefits, which it excluded from its calculation.

        In addition, the report included about $130 billion in state funding for benefits such as Medicaid.

        The main analysis did not include programs for which Congress must set funding levels each year, including low-income housing and energy assistance programs and WIC, which provides nutrition to low-income moms and young children. However, the authors said when they did the analysis with those benefits it didn't change the calculations substantially.

        Of course, it makes sense that older Americans are getting a large chunk of benefits because that’s who Medicare and Social Security are aimed at.

        Most of the 9 percent of payouts going to people who were not working, elderly or disabled were unemployment benefits, medical care payments, Social Security survivor benefits and payouts for people who opted to take Social Security between ages 62 to 64.

        The report noted that there are likely others who would like to be getting government benefits but aren’t because there’s a limit to how much is given out for certain benefit programs.

        261 comments

        Yes, most of it might go to those over 65, and they deserve it. They paid taxes all through their working years, helped defend this country, helped build some of it. They darn well earned it. So why does the GOP platform always tries to screw them? Is it because they aren't rich enough, or they aren …

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      • 9
        Mar
        2012
        7:23am, EST

        Here's where the gap is widest between rich, poor

        U.S. Census Bureau

        The U.S. Census Bureau this week released a report looking at what counties have the highest level of household income inequality. The counties in the darkest blue have the highest disparity.

        By Allison Linn

        There’s been a lot of discussion lately about the growing gap between rich and poor Americans. A new government report sheds light on where the gap is the widest.

        In general the South is home to the biggest concentration of counties with high levels of household income inequality, according to a Census Bureau report released Thursday.

        Sparsely populated East Carroll Parish, La., topped the list with the highest level of income inequality of any county under a formula that considers whether wealth is concentrated in just a few hands or more evenly distributed. It was followed by another small Southern county: Edwards County, Texas.

        But income inequality is hardly limited to small, rural counties.

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        No. 3 on the list was New York County, N.Y., also known as the borough of Manhattan, a place where rich and poor famously live nearly side by side in many neighborhoods.

        Overall the nation's biggest metropolitan areas tended to have elevated levels of income inequality, according to the report.

        If you want to live in a place where there is a narrower gap between rich and poor neighbors, you may want to head to the middle of the country. Counties in the Midwest had much lower levels of household income inequality, according to the report.

        Overall, household income inequality has grown by 18 percent since 1967, although the trend has slowed more recently, the report said.

        The report was based on government household income surveys conducted between 2006 and 2010 that asked about income of all people ages 15 and older living in each household.

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        Do you see a growing gap between rich and poor where you live?

         

        Results with 214 short comments
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        77.2%
        Yes
        19,308 votes
        17.1%
        No
        4,274 votes
        5.7%
        I'm not sure
        1,428 votes
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        Yes

        We've had a shrinking middle class for the past 40 years.

        • 53 votes
        #50
         - aj-33024
         - 7:42 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        I live in detroit so, yeah there's entire neighborhoods where everyone lost their jobs.

        • 24 votes
        #51
         - bass679
         - 7:54 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        Here the rich are still buying 8 million dollar homes while the middle class has watched their home value disappear. The poor, zip.

        • 50 votes
        #52
         - zoobeaast
         - 7:56 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        I'm not sure

        If there is, why is it the government's right to "fix it?" If people earn the money, it doesn't make it wrong to have more than others.

        • 35 votes
        #53
         - mel-1608035
         - 8:01 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        It's wrong when the Government has greased the wheels for the rich, and put the burden of payment on everyone else.

        • 115 votes
        #54
         - PAS-Dallas
         - 8:07 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        With new 4-door Porches parked next to rusty early '80s Citations at Home Depot? Yeah.

        • 27 votes
        #55
         - John, Indiana
         - 8:12 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        The sad part is I do not know which side I will fall out on.

        • 11 votes
        #56
         - Mike Krotch
         - 8:17 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        Too many people lost good-paying jobs and never found anything equal. Repo houses are the result.

        • 34 votes
        #57
         - Rorschach-558483
         - 8:23 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        Untill they get caught for one thing or another.

        • 1 vote
        #58
         - dasdbobb
         - 8:32 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        Yes. We are a country that privatizes profit and socializes debt.

        • 80 votes
        #59
         - timbersmom
         - 8:45 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        Always been that way here in Oklahoma, oil and gas is the culprit. It is a state resource but only helps the very, very wealthy.

        • 25 votes
        #60
         - Kathryn Sullivan
         - 8:53 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        sure you see the people who have gone to college and gotten a marketable job and those that are on handouts.

        • 7 votes
        #61
         - Ilauria
         - 8:56 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        I see more & more middle class going into poverty.... so what is the Republicans plan to deal with that! will tax cuts to the 1% fix that?

        • 52 votes
        #62
         - ScottW430
         - 9:00 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        An awful lot of money is being shifted upwards these days. Always the aftereffect of a recession, but seems to be worse this time.

        • 24 votes
        #63
         - Chris-749391
         - 9:11 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        Its to the point people can't afford to live in Hawaii and can't afford to move away from here

        • 10 votes
        #64
         - Ourdoc
         - 9:12 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        No

        We don't have a lot of "rich" where I live, or in the neighboring county. Just the poor, poorer and poorest.

        • 18 votes
        #65
         - Annie-716754
         - 9:12 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        No

        I live in a typical middle class neighborhood. Some houses are nicer than others, but no one here is scrounging around in the dirt.

        • 8 votes
        #66
         - Aimee-1972067
         - 9:17 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        No

        not really a gap where I live

        • 6 votes
        #67
         - mrsl-2925877
         - 9:18 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        Our government needs to stand up to and protect us from the endless, selfish glutteny and unconscionable greed the wealthy practice.

        • 37 votes
        #68
         - paramed
         - 9:18 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        We are becoming a country ruled by the rich. We need to get back to a strong middle class.

        • 52 votes
        #69
         - Ed-1556361
         - 9:20 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        i live in the district where the former speaker of the house Dennis H lived, yet we still have persons living in abandoned houses- go figur

        • 8 votes
        #70
         - bill-1260019
         - 9:27 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
        Yes

        To such thing as a self-made 1%er! Low wages + maximum production, = greater spread, makes a few rich, the rest hungry!

        • 22 votes
        #71
         - Irish Mullarky
         - 9:32 am EST on Fri Mar 9, 2012
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        536 comments

        And what is the point? Are the wealthy to just write checks to the random stranger? Or as some would prefer have the government legally steal their wealth for "redistribution". Yes, there is disparity. There always has been and always will be. Is it fair? As fair as life is.

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      • 2
        Mar
        2012
        7:22am, EST

        Americans are now more educated than ever

        U.S. Cenusu Bureau

        By Allison Linn

        Amid all the chatter recently about whether President Barack Obama is a “snob” for wanting Americans to be educated or Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorumis anti-education for critizing Obama, many may have missed an important milestone.

        The Census Bureau reported last week that a record 30 percent of Americans ages 25 and older have at least a bachelor’s degree. The data, from March 2011, marks first time ever that such high a proportion of Americans have had at least a four-year degree, and it follows decades of gradually improving higher education rates.

        In the long term, experts say, that’s good news for the U.S. economy. After all, the majority of the U.S. economy is service-oriented, and that means many Americans who want to get ahead need to find ways to succeed in white-collar settings. Many also believe a highly educated, innovative workforce is one of several key ingredients succeeding against global competitors.

        “The future of the U.S. economy is not assembling the computer. The future of the U.S. economy is coming up with a novel design for a semiconductor that gets into a computer, that will then be assembled in some emerging economy,” said Adolfo Laurenti, deputy chief economist with Mesirow Financial.

        And yet, such long-term thinking may not feel so great to the many Americans out there who have a degree but either don’t have the job they want – or don’t have a job at all.

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        The unemployment rate for college graduates, which stood at 4.2 percent in February, is half the unemployment rate for high school grads but still high by historical norms. Also, although a college degree also generally leads to much higher lifelong earnings, many young grads in particular are feeling squeezed these days by low starting salaries.

        “(There are) people who are very disappointed that, yes, they can get a white-collar job but that does not imply the financial success that it used to imply for their father’s generation,” Laurenti said.

        In addition, many are burdened by student loan debt from earning that degree.

        Another issue that has slowly been gaining attention over the past few years is whether every kid should be aiming to go to college. Manufacturers in particular are increasingly complaining that they can’t find skilled workers to run the more complex, sophisticated factories that are now the norm in America.

        These people are calling for a return to the type of vocational training that fell out of favor over the past few decades, amid a push to get more kids to go to college.

        Laurenti, the economist, said he is tentatively encouraged by more discussion about how to provide that kind of training to keep those types of factories running. But he thinks high schools need to be doing more to help prepare kids who would do well in those type of skilled factory jobs.

        “They are not much interested in people with a bachelor’s degree in political science, but it’s not enough to get people who drop out of high school, either,” he said.

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        176 comments

        Uh-Oh...bad news for the republicans. They need a ignorant, uneducated populace.

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      • 17
        Feb
        2012
        7:45am, EST

        Nearly half of private workforce employed by big companies

        Bureau of Labor Statistics

        By Allison Linn

        Big companies are also the big heavyweights when it comes to employment, according to new data released this week by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

        About 46 percent of Americans who work for a private company are employed by a firm with 500 or more employees, according to the most recent BLS data from March of 2011. That translates into approximately 50 million workers, the BLS said.

        About 28 percent, or 30.4 million Americans, are working for a company with 49 employees or less, while about 26 percent, or 28.3 million, are working for a company with 50 to 499 employees.

        The big employers also have seen the biggest growth in employment over the past two decades, according to the BLS.

        As of March of 2011, the smallest companies by employee size were employing about 11 percent more people than in April of 1990, according to the data. Employment at the mid-sized firms is up 13 percent over that time period, while the largest employers have seen employment jump by 29 percent.

         

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        “The small size class is fairly flat whereas a lot of the growth is coming in the large firms,” said Nathan Clausen, an economist with the BLS.

        Clausen said it doesn’t appear that growth in the bigger companies is coming from small companies getting bigger. Although that happens, he said, it’s also true that larger companies get smaller. That means they’re basically canceling each other out.

        Still, he said government economists are just beginning to take a more detailed look at the data, to try to figure out what's behind these trends.

        Already, they are finding some interesting things.

        For example, Clausen said, in the early 1990s the leisure and hospitality industry was dominated by smaller employers. But in the mid-1990s, larger employers quickly began dominating that industry.

        That makes sense to anyone who travels regularly and has seen larger hotel and other chains become much more prevalent.

        Clausen said the economists also noticed that during the Internet bubble of the late 1990s and early 2000s, much of the employment growth came not from small employers but from large ones.

        That may have been because the startups that got so much attention during that time were snapped up by big firms. Or it may have been because the small employers created a lot of business for the big ones by ordering their products and using their services.

        Clausen noted that the data looked narrowly at jobs, so it’s not clear whether the startups were contributing more to the economy in other ways.

        “Startups maybe were generating more income, but in terms of jobs … the jobs were being created not in the startups in the large companies,” he said.

        Do you like the perks and advancement opportunities at big companies, or prefer the intimacy of a smaller employer? Share your thoughts on Facebook.

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        Total of 1,382 votes - click on the "Display Comments" bar below to sort comments

        45.2%
        A big employer
        624 votes
        37.8%
        A small employer
        523 votes
        17%
        I'll take any job at this point
        235 votes
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        A big employer

        Somewhat less nepotism.

        • 5 votes
        #72
         - IWonder-932455
         - 9:16 am EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A small employer

        Small employer is better overall but big companies have perks too

        • 3 votes
        #73
         - Ice-1604584
         - 9:17 am EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A small employer

        Far less politics and more reward as a valued contributor to the business.

        • 7 votes
        #74
         - Joe4USA
         - 9:23 am EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A big employer

        So half work for big and half work for small. I have found small often has weird owners and bad benefits. Big is usually better.

        • 8 votes
        #75
         - C McCoy
         - 9:24 am EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A big employer

        Companies under 500 are much more vulnerable to the Obama taxes on the "rich" since that tax causes these owners to cut back on upgrades.

        • 9 votes
        #76
         - Watermoon
         - 9:41 am EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A small employer

        Not surprising that large companies are dominating; they've taken over the marketplace. Very hard for small businesses to compete nowadays

        • 14 votes
        #77
         - trainsarebetter
         - 9:58 am EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A big employer

        Big company, bigger salary. Plain and simple.

        • 7 votes
        #78
         - Einstein-3556858
         - 10:02 am EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        I'll take any job at this point

        Speech in Washington, May 4, 2006]

        BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN FOR SMALL BUSINESS

        There are approximately 25.8 million businesses in the United

        • 2 votes
        #79
         - We are getting hosed!
         - 11:01 am EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A small employer

        I'm done with being a cog in the big-wigs' bonus pool.

        • 11 votes
        #80
         - VACatwoman
         - 11:32 am EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A small employer

        I don't like the feeling of being a cog in the machine

        • 8 votes
        #81
         - golliegeewillikers-1980315
         - 11:36 am EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A small employer

        A more honest headline would be, "Big companies employ less than half of the private workforce".

        • 13 votes
        #82
         - nutgrape
         - 11:45 am EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A big employer

        More stability and less nepotism

        • 4 votes
        #83
         - sharky.
         - 11:47 am EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A big employer

        Large companies often have better benefits and MORE benefits. They can also more often pay higher salaries.

        • 8 votes
        #84
         - tunatofu
         - 12:03 pm EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A big employer

        Big employer - you have a better chance of getting needed fixed benefits than with a smaller emplpyer.

        • 7 votes
        #85
         - Carter-483998
         - 12:24 pm EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A small employer

        "Almost"? Companies with 500 or less employees employ the most workers.and contribute the most to the GDP.

        • 9 votes
        #86
         - Paul_W
         - 1:15 pm EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A small employer

        Work for small co now. You tend to get eaten up and forgotten in a large co,

        • 5 votes
        #87
         - De2Or2010
         - 2:32 pm EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A small employer

        I like being treated and valued as an individual, $ are not the only concideration.

        • 7 votes
        #88
         - Foy-49
         - 2:40 pm EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A small employer

        Big companies consolidate small ones, lay people off ect.. Then they purchase unfair advantage by purchasing Gov. taking all the profits.

        • 7 votes
        #89
         - Midnight Toker 4+20
         - 3:49 pm EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A small employer

        The problem with the small employer is there is a very limited amount of capital available..... Banks are hording thier money.....

        • 6 votes
        #90
         - OHGuy
         - 4:56 pm EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A big employer

        Better pay, better benefits, actual policies. Small companies are too often Mickey Mouse affairs.

        • 6 votes
        #91
         - DShot1
         - 8:18 pm EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A small employer

        big companies always wind up screwing the employees at some point

        • 7 votes
        #92
         - Judy Ostrom
         - 10:26 pm EST on Fri Feb 17, 2012
        A small employer

        Been freelancing while looking for permanent work for over 3 years. Small firms value people. Big Corps value power—they are greedy and evi

        • 6 votes
        #93
         - Gay Christian
         - 12:35 am EST on Sat Feb 18, 2012
        A big employer

        Benefits are better and cheaper with large companies.

        • 5 votes
        #94
         - wolffchad
         - 10:54 am EST on Sat Feb 18, 2012
        A big employer

        More evidence that Small Business does not drive the economy.

        • 3 votes
        #95
         - BXURZ
         - 1:33 pm EST on Sat Feb 18, 2012
        A big employer

        500 people is still midsize, IMO. Big firms, >5K people, offer better pay & benefits, more growth & mobility, and maybe even a pension.

        • 3 votes
        #96
         - Dan-310699
         - 4:15 pm EST on Sat Feb 18, 2012
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        Thank you MSNBC for letting us comment on this story. So many times you have closed a discussion because it was not going "your way". You did the right thing this time, not like the GM story.

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      • 10
        Feb
        2012
        8:50am, EST

        US workers behind in science and math

        Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development

        By Allison Linn

        When it comes to churning out young workers with college degrees in math and science, the United States lags well behind other advanced democracies, ranking just behind Turkey and Spain, according to a new analysis.

        The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development analyzed education rates in its member countries and found that the U.S. is below average in the relative number of 25- to 34-year-old workers who have a degree in so-called STEM fields such as science, engineering, computing and statistics.

        That’s a potential problem because research has shown that innovation in any economy depends on how many workers have such degrees, said Ronald Ehrenberg, director of the Cornell Higher Education Research Institute.

        “It is something that we should be concerned about,” Ehrenberg said

        There are about 1,472 math and science grads for every 100,000 employed 25- to 34-year-olds in the United States, according to the data. The compares to more than 3,555 in Korea, which leads the chart, according to the OECD figures based on 2009 data.

        The United States falls between Spain and Iceland on the chart, and is noticeably lower than the OECD average. The figures do not reflect how many people with STEM degrees are actually employed in their field or using the skills they learned.

        Jobs available for graduates with degrees in math, science and engineering tend to pay well, said Anthony Carnevale, director of Georgetown’s Center on Education and the Workforce. But there are plenty of ways in which American culture dissuades its most promising kids from going into those fields.

        For starters, many young Americans believe they can make more money with a degree in a business, finance or a related field, Carnevale said. Americans also seem to place more value on jobs in those fields.

        “(If you’re) a smart high school kid, doing well, your image of what you want to do is not to wear a white smock every day and sit on a stool with a beaker,” Carnevale said. “You’re in a culture that drives you toward more convivial and more social kinds of work, and it pays better.”

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        Young Americans may also not be getting enough exposure to math and science, said Cornell’s Ehrenberg.

        At the K-12 level, he said, it can be tough to recruit great math and science teachers because college graduates who specialize in those areas can probably find better-paying work outside teaching.

        In addition, some students may have a hard time finding the right role models in college math and science departments, said Ehrenberg, who noted that many science and math faculties are dominated by white and Asian men.

        Ehrenberg said many colleges and universities have tried to recruit faculty from more diverse backgrounds and to develop more family-friendly policies to retain women and non-traditional students in the fields.

        “I think role models do matter,” Ehrenberg said.

        For now, at least, Carnevale said many companies are simply poaching talented young science and math graduates from other countries. But as those countries ramp up their own businesses, that may be tougher to do.

        Still, he said it also may be hard to fight the biases that have come to value lucrative non-scientific fields such as finance and law.

        “A labor market is a social institution as well as an economic one,” he said.

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        94.1%
        Yes, it's important for our future success
        7,228 votes
        4.8%
        No, we can be successful even if kids focus on other things
        366 votes
        1.2%
        I'm not sure
        91 votes
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      • 3
        Feb
        2012
        7:35am, EST

        Where the (good) jobs are coming

        Bureau of Labor Statistics

        By Allison Linn

         

        We already know that one key way to make more money and stay employed is to get more education.

        Now a new report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics adds another piece of evidence that it usually pays off, literally, to shoot for that master’s degree or higher.

        The BLS this week released a detailed forecast for how it expects the job market to change in the current decade (the '10s?).

        Among the findings: Jobs that require some sort of postsecondary degree for entry are expected to grow at the fastest clip from 2010 to 2020.

        The report found that jobs that require a masters’ degree or more are projected to grow by 21.7 percent over that decade, to a little more than 2.4 million total jobs, compared with just 12.2 percent growth in jobs that require only a high school diploma.

        The number of jobs that require a doctoral or professional degree will grow by 19.9 percent, to nearly 5.3 million, while the number that require a college degree is expected to grow 16.5 percent to a total of 25.8 million.

        Despite the higher rate of growth, there will still be fewer total jobs requiring those advanced degrees, and many more that just require a high school degree.

        The BLS predicts that by 2020 about 69.7 million jobs, or nearly 43 percent of the total, will only require a high school diploma to get in the door.

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        Of course, plenty of people who are college educated are working as baristas, store managers and other positions that may not require a college degree.

        Overall, the Labor Department expects about 20.5 million new jobs to be created between 2010 and 2020 as the job market picks up steam after a deep recession and weak early recovery. Last year the economy created about 1.6 million new jobs, according to preliminary figures.

        Many of the net new jobs to be added in coming years will be in health care and social assistance fields, reflecting our aging population and increased medical needs.

        Other industries expected to see big job growth will be playing catch-up from the recession. For example, the outlook calls for about 1.8 million new construction jobs to be created in coming years, making it one of the sectors with the highest job growth. But the BLS notes that even if the projections are correct and construction employment reaches nearly 7.4 million, that will be fewer jobs than before the recession began in 2007.

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        29.1%
        Yes, it boosts pay and job security
        2,599 votes
        20.3%
        No, it's too expensive and time-consuming
        1,811 votes
        50.6%
        It depends on the field
        4,525 votes
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      • 27
        Jan
        2012
        7:44am, EST

        Too little, too late? Factory jobs making comeback

        John Schoen, msnbc.com

        Manufacturing accounts for 9 percent of the U.S. workforce, compared with 28 percent in 1960 and 12 percent just a decade ago.

        By Allison Linn

        President Barack Obama is on the road this week touting a plan to bring jobs back to the United States, in part by bolstering manufacturing here.

        It’s no secret that’s a tough challenge.

        The United States has lately seen an increase in manufacturing jobs, something Obama noted in his State of the Union address Tuesday. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, about 330,000 manufacturing jobs have been created over the past two years, bringing the total to nearly 11.8 million as of December.

        Still, that is a nearly 2 million short of the 13.7 million manufacturing jobs that existed when the economy went into recession in December 2007. And it’s far fewer than in the late 1970s, when more than 19 million Americans -- out of a much smaller work force -- were employed in manufacturing, which was seen as a key path to a middle-class life.

        Manufacturing may be bouncing back, but it is returning in a far different form. The recession washed out many inefficent companies, leaving behind operations that even leaner and more highly automated. That means they can make do with fewer workers even as they increase production.

        As a recent series of stories in The New York Times has highlighted, successful companies like Apple have prospered largely by mastering a global supply chain that depends on sending work overseas to take advantage of low-cost labor.

        Obama is hoping that tax breaks and other incentives will help encourage manufacturers to keep jobs here, or even bring some back. Time will tell whether that is true.

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        America did away with slavery. But companies like Apple support slavery in other countries, interesting. “mastering a global supply chain “Guess we’ll get our jobs back in a few hundred years or so, gotta love MSNBC!

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      • 20
        Jan
        2012
        7:20am, EST

        Lose a job, prepare for a really long job search

        Bureau of Labor Statistics

        The median amount of time it's taking for unemployed people to find new jobs is about 21 weeks.

        Here’s the good news: Employers are hiring more workers than they are firing these days, a welcome turnaround from the darkest days of the Great Recession.

        Here’s the bad news: If you are among those unlucky enough to lose your job now, you'd better prepare for a long job search.

        The median duration of unemployment was 21 weeks or about five months as of December. That means half of all unemployed workers had been without a job for more than five months.

        That’s actually an improvement from mid-2010, when the median duration of unemployment peaked at 25 weeks. But it’s still nearly three times what it was before the recession began and much higher than in previous tough job markets.

        The main problem: There just aren’t enough jobs to go around.

        Last year the economy added an average of about 137,000 jobs a month. While that’s better than when the economy was shedding jobs, it wasn’t nearly enough to absorb the millions of unemployed and new workers entering the market, said Sylvia Allegretto, an economist with the Institute for Research on Labor and Employment at the University of California, Berkeley.

        “That rate of job growth is simply not fast enough to really soak up all those who are unemployed and underemployed, and those who have left the labor market and will be coming back to the labor market,” Allegretto said.

         

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        Allegretto doesn’t expect the situation to improve much soon for the long-term unemployed.

        That’s partly because there are still 13 million people who are unemployed and seeking work. It’s also because there are many other Americans out there who may have stopped looking for a job because the market was so bad, and will start looking again if the market improves.

        Those excruciatingly long job searches are an especially big problem for older workers. The median duration of unemployment for 20- to 24-year-olds was 16.3 weeks in December, compared with 31.4 weeks for 55- to 64-year-olds.

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        6.6%
        Less than a week
        415 votes
        28.8%
        A few months
        1,823 votes
        36.3%
        At least six months
        2,297 votes
        28.3%
        I'm unemployed, so I'm still figuring that out
        1,790 votes
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        At least six months

        Took me 15 months.

        • 5 votes
        #97
         - Rorschach-558483
         - 8:27 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
        At least six months

        no reason to get a job. it is financially better to live off of governmenet money and food stamps..

        • 7 votes
        #98
         - tony tyler-1522631
         - 9:15 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
        At least six months

        Most educated, middle aged unemployed folks I know are out of work for years NOT months. Cos are prejudice against them now.

        • 21 votes
        #99
         - blondmom
         - 9:23 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
        Less than a week

        If I was laid off, I would find something (food service, retail, janitorial). Work while sending resumes trying to secure ft + benefits.

        • 4 votes
        #100
         - winker-1553407
         - 9:27 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
        A few months

        I work from home, opened my own business!! screw looking. my own boss my own hours!! make as much or little as i want

        • 4 votes
        #101
         - TheBigLebowski
         - 9:40 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
        A few months

        I have worked in multiple industry & have a specialized skill set. Most unemployed are due to polarized skills in high volatility industrie

        • 3 votes
        #102
         - Independent-1141593
         - 9:41 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
        At least six months

        So many good paying jobs are outsourced/offshored/contract. This is the elephant in the living room that politicians aren't mentioning.

        • 9 votes
        #103
         - Oregon Native
         - 9:45 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
        Less than a week

        Come to Dallas / Fort Worth... IT jobs galore. Found a new one in a week.

        • 3 votes
        #104
         - JCFromDallas
         - 9:49 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
        A few months

        I was unemployed for 6 months (to the day) from Nov. 2010 - May 2011. Luckily I had plenty saved to live on during that time.

        • 1 vote
        #105
         - Starlight75
         - 9:56 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
        A few months

        Last time I looked for work in 2008, it took about 2 months. Of course things are different now....

          #106
           - T Bourlon
           - 10:07 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
          At least six months

          I'm over 50 - 'nuff said

          • 17 votes
          #107
           - fawgcutter
           - 10:22 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
          Less than a week

          Since 10 years ago i don't have a paycheck because I own my company. I can't find workers who at least know how to vaccum and mop a floor.

          • 1 vote
          #108
           - The Mexicano
           - 10:37 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
          Less than a week

          Minus side- I'm 58 years old.Plus side-I will take ANY job that paid at least minimum wage to avoid being unemployed until I can do better.

          • 4 votes
          #109
           - disgusted-3905278
           - 11:03 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
          I'm unemployed, so I'm still figuring that out

          Yeah right. I would love to see the MEDIAN and not the average.

          • 1 vote
          #110
           - Time to Say NO MORE
           - 11:24 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
          At least six months

          I would have felt very fortunate to only have been out of work for 5 months. I just returned to work - after 26 months.

          • 4 votes
          #111
           - loveblue2
           - 11:28 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
          I'm unemployed, so I'm still figuring that out

          I was fired from my last job. I screwed-up, and it's "one strike and you're out" to them no matter how sorry or sincere you are--goner.

          • 1 vote
          #112
           - Paul Banta
           - 11:32 am EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
          I'm unemployed, so I'm still figuring that out

          Ive been unemployed HALF of my 10 Year Career. I blame this on 'The 1% Republican Party" who are refusing to hire so they can blame Obama.

          • 17 votes
          #113
           - anon ymous-3412830
           - 12:06 pm EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
          At least six months

          Working in security until I find a job in software. Buffalo is a tough market with a lot of politics. Will probably need to relocate.

            #114
             - Nick Birke
             - 12:42 pm EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
            I'm unemployed, so I'm still figuring that out

            It will be two years this March!

              #115
               - Dingo7734
               - 12:45 pm EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
              A few months

              Now that I have some specific training I don't think it would be as bad but before I landing this job I was out of work for over a year.

                #116
                 - bass679
                 - 12:56 pm EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
                At least six months

                I'm in my early 20s and judging from my experience as well as my peer's it takes about 7 months to find a job. Good luck to everyone lookin

                  #117
                   - Scubasteve58001
                   - 12:56 pm EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
                  At least six months

                  I was "out" for 18 months. Almost went crazy.

                    #118
                     - 2Dogz
                     - 12:57 pm EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
                    A few months

                    I'm 62 and found great employment overseas. I was left for dead in the U.S., but China, India, Middle East - lots of good jobs.

                    • 3 votes
                    #119
                     - Jack Knowlton
                     - 12:59 pm EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
                    At least six months

                    It took almost 2 1/2 YEARS to find the one I have now. I'm keeping it while I keep looking...

                      #120
                       - ms. hoo
                       - 12:59 pm EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
                      I'm unemployed, so I'm still figuring that out

                      Out in SD I'm well qualified/educated and clean record but for whatever reason I don't get interviews. Go figure.

                      • 1 vote
                      #121
                       - bumpitybump
                       - 1:01 pm EST on Fri Jan 20, 2012
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                      94 comments

                      Hey wait a minute! All of these rosy colored pictures of employment outlooks...by our precision/no-spin media....how come the voting results on this article show almost a clean sweep of those still unemployed with NO positive hope for the future? Gee, what world do I live in? Who's on first? Who's  …

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                      2012
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                      Role reversal: Employers say they can't find workers

                      Manpower Group

                      Manpower Group's worldwide survey of employers found a huge jump in U.S. employers saying they were having trouble filling open jobs.

                      By Allison Linn

                       

                      With 13 million unemployed people seeking work in this country, it would seem like anyone who wants to hire someone would have little difficulty doing so.

                      But that’s not what many employers are saying.

                      More than half of U.S. employers surveyed by the staffing firm Manpower Group last year said they were having trouble filling job openings because they couldn't find qualified workers. That’s a huge 38 percentage point jump from 2010, when only 14 percent said they were having trouble filling positions.

                      Economists and labor experts say that in some industries, there is a legitimate talent shortage: There simply aren't enough workers with the skills needed to do the jobs available.

                      But some also think there are other factors that are making it difficult for employers to connect with the right employees.

                      “Employers have been spoiled by the recession,” said Melanie Holmes, a vice president with Manpower Group.

                      Holmes explained that the nation’s high unemployment rate left many recruiters feeling they didn’t have to look very hard to find a great candidate, and they could skimp on money or benefits.

                      Employers also may not be willing to spend the time or money training someone for a highly specialized job, or one that requires unique skills.

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                      “Employers are getting pickier and pickier,” Holmes said. “We want the perfect person to walk through the door.”

                      Other experts also are seeing evidence that employers just aren’t working as hard to recruit workers, either because they can’t afford to or they don’t feel like they have to. Employers may not be looking far afield because they can't afford moving expenses. Employees may be less willing to move because of the housing bust.

                      Steven J. Davis, a professor at the University of Chicago’s Booth School of Business, regularly tracks “recruiting intensity per vacancy,” which is essentially a measure of how hard employers are looking for the right employees.  He said recruiting intensity declined a lot at the onset of the financial crisis in 2008, and has only recovered partway as the economy has improved.

                      With the economic recovery still so weak, Davis said, “maybe most employers don’t feel a great sense of urgency in order to increase their ranks.”

                      Still, Davis said there also are  legitimate, longer-term concerns about American workers’ skills. He thinks one big issue is the swath of mostly male workers who may have made a decent living in low-skill construction or manufacturing jobs but now find they can no longer get a job in those fields. They also don’t have the education or training to get a different job.

                      “There’s a generation of young men who might have gotten the training to become a health care tech but instead they’re working in the construction sector, and it’s difficult to make that transition if you’re now in your early 30s and you’ve been earning a good living in construction,” he said.

                      The skills gap is not a new problem.  The Manpower results were part of a global study of about 40,000 employers worldwide. Since 2006, the survey has consistently found that between 30 and 40 percent of employers say they can’t find the right workers for the jobs they have open.

                      Still, the gap between what employers want and which workers are available isn’t nearly enough to explain the nation’s high unemployment rate, said Heidi Shierholz, an economist with the Economic Policy Institute. The unemployment rate fell to 8.5 percent in December, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, but is still much higher than before the recession began in 2007.

                      Shierholz noted that unemployment rates are elevated across most industries and all education levels, which is a sign that there simply aren’t enough jobs to go around.

                      Have you or your employer had trouble finding qualified workers?

                       

                      Results with 549 short comments
                      Total of 30,474 votes - click on the "Display Comments" bar below to sort comments

                      37.8%
                      Yes, we can't find qualified workers
                      11,526 votes
                      22%
                      No, there are plenty of qualified candidates out there
                      6,712 votes
                      17.9%
                      No, because we aren't hiring
                      5,467 votes
                      22.2%
                      I don't know because I don't have a job
                      6,769 votes
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                      Yes, we can't find qualified workers

                      Drug screenings are a major issue for our drivers. Trying to find a driver w/o a drug past is next to impossible anymore.

                      • 64 votes
                      #122
                       - Maryland republican
                       - 7:55 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      No, there are plenty of qualified candidates out there

                      Unfortunately we are part of the low ball group, but when the economy turns around we will pay the low ball price of lots of turnover

                      • 28 votes
                      #123
                       - 66mustangconv
                       - 8:19 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      No, there are plenty of qualified candidates out there

                      Firms continue to create positions out of touch with reality, say, an accountant who can juggle and has hair-styling experience.

                      • 150 votes
                      #124
                       - MicroGlyphics
                       - 8:21 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      No, there are plenty of qualified candidates out there

                      hire vets all the time for my boss, may not have all the skills but will learn and work hard for you

                      • 71 votes
                      #125
                       - Wolften
                       - 8:29 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      Yes, we can't find qualified workers

                      I work in a very specialized technology and it is difficult finding qualified people.

                      • 11 votes
                      #126
                       - Goto Afterburners
                       - 8:45 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      No, there are plenty of qualified candidates out there

                      Seems like employers want employees to specialize in too many areas, hurting their effectiveness on a team, instead of hiring more people

                      • 120 votes
                      #127
                       - developInOhio
                       - 8:50 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      No, there are plenty of qualified candidates out there

                      Employers want someone with a degree, dont have to train while working 2 jobs for price of one working for peanuts.

                      • 205 votes
                      #128
                       - had-enough-470242
                       - 8:51 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      No, because we aren't hiring

                      Either expectations are set to high or entry level jobs are to lacking. We want better employees but provide less opportunity.

                      • 116 votes
                      #129
                       - Scottie-4229242
                       - 8:54 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      I don't know because I don't have a job

                      I'm a CPA specializing in business valuation, over 55, 18 years of experience - haven't worked as an accountant for 18 months. Picky, picky

                      • 80 votes
                      #130
                       - TishTheFish
                       - 8:56 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      No, there are plenty of qualified candidates out there

                      Employers not honest here, they don't want to pay a living wage for talent!!

                      • 261 votes
                      #131
                       - E Hall-1909469
                       - 8:56 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      No, there are plenty of qualified candidates out there

                      Some people turn down jobs because employers are still acting like there is more competition for each job. They need to offer better wages.

                      • 169 votes
                      #132
                       - BG-1354673
                       - 8:56 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      I don't know because I don't have a job

                      My boss let me go to hire someone much less qualified and with far less experience for less money.

                      • 152 votes
                      #133
                       - Betty-301392
                       - 8:59 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      I don't know because I don't have a job

                      Age discrimination and cheap employers not training for VERY specific skill sets. A general skill in the area needed isn't good enough

                      • 122 votes
                      #134
                       - dholley
                       - 9:06 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      Yes, we can't find qualified workers

                      The skills of candidates are not up to par but also keep in mind that qualified can mean both job as well as personal skills.

                      • 17 votes
                      #135
                       - He who knows-
                       - 9:06 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      No, because we aren't hiring

                      The problem is they are unwilling to spend the money on training or pay a decent wage.

                      • 156 votes
                      #136
                       - does not work
                       - 9:08 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      Yes, we can't find qualified workers

                      My wife showed up for an interview in a suit and got the job. The five people who showed up in sweat pants and street clothes did not

                      • 59 votes
                      #137
                       - Steve-2570999
                       - 9:08 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      Yes, we can't find qualified workers

                      Has industry ever thought of apprenticeship programs, mentoring, or other training? This is nothing but an excuse to deflect blame.

                      • 121 votes
                      #138
                       - One really fed up boomer
                       - 9:14 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      Yes, we can't find qualified workers

                      ...or even unqualified workers for training, in construction. Willingness to work, drug test, be on time, with a positive attitude ...nope

                      • 33 votes
                      #139
                       - TinkerWiz
                       - 9:16 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      I don't know because I don't have a job

                      Employers are cheap SOB's who think they can get eveything for nothing.

                      • 143 votes
                      #140
                       - Paul-991174
                       - 9:16 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      No, because we aren't hiring

                      I've seen no efforts by my company to hire new employees. In fact, we're still laying people off.

                      • 53 votes
                      #141
                       - John-755418
                       - 9:18 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      No, because we aren't hiring

                      Employers want everyone they hire to already be fully trained. There are no entry level positions anymore

                      • 135 votes
                      #142
                       - Joe F Las Vegas
                       - 9:24 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      No, there are plenty of qualified candidates out there

                      Companies say younger potential employees don't understand they have to start from the bottom. I say: You don't understand school debt

                      • 101 votes
                      #143
                       - ginny-3388785
                       - 9:26 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      No, there are plenty of qualified candidates out there

                      most interviewees in my department at my company have been internal candidates. most hires from outside are college hires.

                      • 18 votes
                      #144
                       - brian-397693
                       - 9:31 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
                      No, because we aren't hiring

                      Plenty of good people out there . Just don't expect the perfect applicant . 20 Yrs old with 30 yrs exp will work for peanuts doesn't exist

                      • 215 votes
                      #145
                       - mike-2557769
                       - 9:37 am EST on Fri Jan 13, 2012
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